Remote Viewing, Demystified with Dick Allgire From the Future Forecasting Group.

A stray thought about a military tanker turns into a real-world headline two days later and that’s where the rabbit hole starts. I’m joined by veteran remote viewer Dick Allgire to talk about remote viewing as a trainable skill, not a vibe: a protocol-driven way to translate subconscious impressions into usable, testable data.

We get specific about controlled remote viewing mechanics, including ideograms, the “blackboard” focus method, and why viewers often don’t “see” a movie so much as collect fragments and sensations. Dick shares the moments that convinced him something real was happening, plus why remote viewing can feel tedious and inconsistent even after decades of practice. We also break down target IDs, double blind protocol, and the targeteering process, because without clean tasking, chain of custody, and feedback, accuracy collapses into guesswork.

From there we move into the work at Future Forecasting Group, including the hard problem of cryptocurrency forecasting and why some associative remote viewing setups fail. We also hit the topics people love to argue about: UFO remote viewing and why Dick thinks it’s usually the worst place to start, plus a chilling detour into mind control claims and the Derren Brown hypnosis experiment that mirrors classic “trigger cue” stories. If you’re curious about remote viewing training, consciousness research, and practical safeguards against self-deception, this conversation is for you. You can find Dick's Group at https://www.ffgrv.com/

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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:49

Hello, everyone, and welcome back to History's Agenda. We're very lucky today to have um a follow-up to one of our beginning conversations about learning about remote viewing. And uh I I have to use the word expert, person everybody listens to, everybody knows about when it comes to remote moving, and that's Dick Elgair.

SPEAKER_00 1:13

How are you? I'm very good, Stephen. It's good to be with you. We'll have a great conversation.

SPEAKER_03 1:17

Yeah. So Dick's, we're different, total different time zones. So it's afternoon here, so I didn't say good morning. It's almost night, and I know it's morning out by you.

SPEAKER_00 1:27

Yeah, it's like 4 30 in the afternoon for you. It's 10 30 here in Hawaii. It's a very we have what's called a Kona storm, which comes from the southwest, and it's been days of pounding rain and wind. So kind of unusual weather for Hawaii. I spent a little a little time there.

SPEAKER_03 1:46

I went uh I was there probably four or five times for like a month at a time, and it was just just a total. The first time you go, you're just amazed at the weather, at the floral everything is. It's really a magical feel. It really is a magical feel. And it's funny, I'm old, so it was a long time ago, and um it was like the fifth anniversary of the state, and I didn't realize it. And I'm on the beach, and they got the Thunderbirds or the Blue Angels I saw twice on the beach. It was just a magical experience being there and seeing everything in. So you're lucky to be there.

SPEAKER_00 2:24

I was at that celebration, I was on the same beach. I came here in 1985, and I got off the plane, and I I went, well, I I I it I had left Salt Lake City in the wintertime in gray cold January, and we hadn't seen the sun in weeks. And I got off the plane in Hawaii and I looked around and went, wow, the world is in color. I'm home. I'm staying. And so I was a news broadcaster, so I went home and got videotapes of me doing news reports. Came back, dropped them off at every station. One of the news directors got a hold of me and said, Can you come to work? I said, Tomorrow. Been here ever since.

SPEAKER_03 3:12

That's Chris. Lucky it's uh it's a little complicated finding jobs. So the cost of living out there out there is culture shock.

SPEAKER_00 3:22

The first time I went to the grocery store, and you know, like, okay, checking out this, this, and this. And they gave me the total, and it was like, What? Yeah, it's it's a little more expensive out here.

Discovering Remote Viewing On Radio

SPEAKER_03 3:32

Other than pineapples and coffee, right? That's you know, and there's a large beef ranch on the Big Island, too. I remember we went there, I think, years. And beyond that, everything has flown in. You wanted to buy a Budweiser, you thought you were being cheap. That was the most expensive beer there. And that was long before microbreweries and things like that. Yeah. But anyway, so maybe tell us how how you got involved in uh remote viewing.

SPEAKER_00 3:59

I was a television newscaster. I was living on the other side of the island, and this was prior to the internet. This was the mid-1990s. And I would go to work at 2:30 in the afternoon and help write and produce the two newscasts, and I would get off at 10:30 at night and drive back across the island. So driving to work, remember when you couldn't log into X or log onto the internet and get news feeds? I would listen to news radio and they would have the top-of-the-hour news updates. And I'd I'd go, okay, there's this trouble in Beirut, the Teamsters are striking. These are the national news stories that I need to be aware of. And then I go to work and do my job, and at the end of the day, driving through this beautiful forest through the green mountains at night, you know, this kind of lonely road.

SPEAKER_03 5:00

It's desolate. Back then it was anyway.

SPEAKER_00 5:02

Yeah. Uh there was a show on the news radio called Coast to Coast with Art Bell. And because my radio was already tuned to that station, I'd go, what's this guy's interesting? And I heard him talk about some of these off-kilter topics, and one of them was remote viewing. And I thought, if that's true, I need to learn how to do that. Because I had had moments of precognition, and we've all we've all had those. Every every human does, but we just discount them. The the time that you're thinking about something and it it comes to. And I'll I'll give you an example of one. It's because of my remote viewing, my pathway has been opened. But a lot of people have moments like this that they don't it it's so fleeting and they don't pay attention to it. I was at the beach three days ago and was getting ready to swim. I swim every morning at this beautiful beach across from where I live. And the uh at that time of morning, the National Guard, the jets take off the F-22 raptors and the tankers that fuel them. So I'm getting in the ocean, this jet flew over, and it was one of the KC-135 tankers. And I thought, I bet those guys I wonder if they think they're going to Iran, because they're based in Hawaii and maybe they want to be part of the big show. And then I thought, I wonder if they had to fuel the Israeli military, if they hadn't trained with them, would there be a problem? Like, do they do cross-training? Like if a US tanker had to had to fuel an Israeli channel. These these are just really rapid-fire little stray thoughts. And then I thought, there could be a problem that could cause an accident. And so that was just a just a momentary thought. Two days later, they just announced that one of the tankers was lost and uh crashed in Iraq. And I bet it'll be a fueling accident. So that's it, that's the type of things that happens to everybody, and they may not notice it. It's like the person who's thinking of an old friend, like, oh, I had a high school friend, I haven't talked to them in 15 years, and then they call you or you hear about them. So we've all had that experience. And that is us communicating with our subconscious awareness. And remote viewing is a stylized, protocol-driven, structured method to open a communication pathway between your conscious mind and your subconscious mind, where all information, consciousness is a field, it's a dimension, all information is there. We're closed off of it because we're in these human bodies and our awareness is focused on what we see and hear. But a little part of us is in that greater consciousness field, and that's what remote viewing is being able to access that.

SPEAKER_03 8:29

I think I think those things happen to me all the time. And I think it took me a long time to realize that I have to pay attention to them. Yeah. I mean, uh that's a big thing. I mean, even simple things like I woke up once and my mother was in a nursing home. She'd been there for three years, and I said, I gotta go see her. And I called and sick to work. I got in a car and I and I drove there. When I got into the parking lot, I was getting out of the car, the phone rang, and it was the nurse that said my mother was gonna pass away. And they get here as soon as she can. I'm like, I'm outside.

SPEAKER_00 9:00

Things like that. I I would I would expect that you have had a lot of experiences like that because of the nature of the broadcasts that you're doing and you're interested in. So you've got one foot in that door.

Precognition Stories And 9/11 Intuition

SPEAKER_03 9:15

Well, I had I had a crazy one, and I I don't need to tell you. I'd rather listen to the case. Oh, go ahead. I like hearing about it. Trevor Burrus, Jr. So I worked a block away from the World Trade Center. I lived in New Jersey. I took the Path Train into the World Trade Center every day at 8:30, 8:45, walked up the elevator and left and and walked two blocks away every day. So on the 10th, my friend had had a heart attack and he was coming back to work on the 11th. And he lived by me in not New Jersey in Rockham, but we took the same train. So I called him at four o'clock. I said, I know you're thinking about coming tomorrow. I think you gotta wait a day. He's like, What do you mean? I gotta come at work. I'm just gonna come in the morning and then I'll go home early. Nope. He goes, I said, absolutely not. Under no circumstances are you to come tomorrow. And I packed up all the things you need. I drove it in a brainstorm to him in the middle of the night and dropped them off to him so he wouldn't come in the next day. The next day, five o'clock, I woke up in the morning. My father was in the hospital. I called my boss and said, I'm not coming to work today. I'm going to go see my father in the hospital. So I'm sitting on my bed instead of being on the escalator in the World Trade Center. You know, that's the kind of I'm I mean, I would I still am a 9-11 victim because I was there. I I helped a hundred and well, I helped a whole group of people, families down there. So I spent a lot of time afterwards. But and I'd gotten cancer from it and all those kind of things. But it's still a weird kind of event. You know, my father's dying in the hospital. He he gets the message to me not to go and get on the train that morning and come see him.

SPEAKER_00 11:01

Just well, it was you it wasn't your time, and you have a mission that needs to be fulfilled. So it was there are higher powers that, you know, I agree with you 100%.

SPEAKER_03 11:14

And that's just the way it is. And I don't really tell that story very often. Now I told it on the air, but I don't tell it that often because it's almost surreal, hard to believe, except I lived it. And my ex-wife used to say those things happen to me all the time. I always used to say whatever. But that was, you know, that's one that obviously stand out. Not as much as me not going, because it's so much rational. My father's in the hospital, you decide to go see him. But to to go out of my way to stop someone else from going, that was a little peculiar. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's a good story. Thank you. I believe it. I totally believe it. So you hear these things, and then you you go and take some classes. Is that what you did next?

Early Training And Finding A Teacher

SPEAKER_00 11:57

Oh, yeah. I was telling my story of how I got into remote viewing. That's why we're here. Yeah, thanks for keeping me on track. So I'm listening to Art Bell. I hear about remote viewing, and a he interviewed Courtney Brown. And Courtney Brown had published a book and he started the Farsight Academy in Atlanta, Georgia. So I said to my wife, I want to go learn remote viewing. She says, How much is that? I said, It's like 3,000 bucks, plus I got to pay the airfare and hotel. And she looked at me like, You really why do you want to do that? I said, I just do. And so uh she approved it. And I went and I trained for a week with Courtney Brown, and it was interesting, but it wasn't as I expected. It was like the method was there was no viewing. It was like, well, you don't really see anything. You get impressions and you write words. I go, okay. And I I exhibited some target contact, and I convinced myself that, yeah, there was something to that. And then I came back to Hawaii, and this was in the summer of 1997, and back in the early days of email, for some reason somebody sent me an email that said there's a former military remote viewer named Glenn Wheaton, who's going to be giving a lecture at uh there's a local consciousness place, uh you know, a store that sold crystals and that kind of psychic paraphernalia. So he was going to give a free lecture. So I went there and there were about 30 people there. He got up, showed his military ID card, had the total military bearing, and he said, Okay, I'll tell you the secret of the universe, the most important thing. The secret of the universe is communication. Everything communicates all the time. And I went, okay, we're getting into some far-out philosophy here. But then he he told, spoke about consciousness and just had this amazing credibility and charisma. And he never made any claims about remote viewing. He never tried to show off his own work. He just said, This is, you know, I can show you how it works if you're interested. And so there was a woman that set up classes. They they rented a classroom and he started teaching us. So he came in and he said, okay, gave a lecture. Then he taught us the first protocol. On a clean sheet of paper in the upper left-hand corner, write the word ideogram. Sliding over to the upper right-hand corner, write page one colon. Directly below page one colon, write your name. And we're sitting there at desks and he's barking out these commands, and we're following his instructions, and he gives us a target ID, and he says, Okay, I'm gonna have you close your eyes and look on a place we call Blackboard, where you're gonna close your eyes and look up at about a 60-degree angle and focus about where you would comfortably read something. Do that, find your blackboard, write the target ID, open your eyes. When I say go, close your eyes and look for target imagery given the target. And he'd go, go, stop, and we go, that was like one second. I couldn't see. I he goes, and he'd say, on a clean sheet of paper, write the word edogram, write page two, then he'd go through, go, write the target ID. When I say go, close your eyes and look target, go, stop. And we go, okay. And it was step by step, and then he'd show us the picture, and some of us would have actually drawn it. And so I did those classes with him, and he never accepted any money for it. He didn't charge, he wouldn't accept money. I trained with him that way for like many, many, almost 18 years. And I still meet with him weekly. I've been training with him 27 years. The methodology that they developed is so dense, there's a lot to it. It's like a college PhD course. But what it does is it keeps your conscious mind busy doing these tasks. It gives you moments where you query your subconscious and you do it in the same way you do it by probing, you make a spontaneous etiogram on a page, and then you touch your pen and you look a certain way, and you do it the same way every time, so that you train your subconscious that by doing that, that's a query. Show me the target ID. And um it's a matter of doing it over and over and over. It's like practicing piano or guitar.

SPEAKER_03 17:01

Lifting weights or whatever you do, you have to grow, right? You have to read, you would read faster. I was severely dyslexic, so it took me a long time before I taught myself to read in a way that, you know, and now the more you do it, the better you are at it. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:17

Well what's interesting is um I was just thinking about this yesterday. I'm a journalist, so I pride myself in proper grammar, proper spelling. Like it would be very embarrassing when you turn in a script to your editor and you misspell a word. When you are in a remote viewing state, you become dyslexic. You can't remember how to spell simple words. Like I'll be in a session and I'll get a phrase or an idea and I'll go to write it down and I'll I'll go. We we see horrendous spelling mistakes where it looks like a third grader has written this. And I'm a professional journalist who pride myself in proper use of the language, but when you're remote viewing, your subconscious it is like a child going, ooh, wow, there's a shiny thing, and doesn't know how to spell, illuminate. Does open new neural pathways in your brain, remote viewing.

SPEAKER_03 18:17

Wow. That's so interesting. So what was your next step?

First Big Hits And Sobering Proof

SPEAKER_00 18:22

So you work, you know, you're working with Glenn and Well, there was the there were the aha moments along the way because we were back in those days, no one had ever seen examples of remote viewing. There were a couple documentaries where they talked about Ingo Swan. They showed a couple of guys from the Stargate. I think there was a clip of Mel Riley sitting at a desk with a pen drawing something like 15 seconds of a clip. But none of us had ever seen a good remote viewing session. So we were forced to show it to ourselves. So we would be there elbow to elbow, 16 people in a room at folding tables, given a target, and no hint, no front loading as to what the target would be, just numbers or letters. And then we would produce our data and show it to the whole entire class, and then we'd get the feedback we'd be showing the picture, and we'd go, Volture, do that amazingly. We're in the class, I'm working at Target, and I close my eyes and I saw people sitting next to each other, and I hear click, click, click, click, and I hear them yeah, yelling. And I got this sensation of going down and around. So I drew people sitting together going down and around. And it was just this eerie sensation in this shadowy image. And I turned in that session, and Glenn looked at me and he just he shook my hand, he goes, Congratulations, and he showed me the picture of the roller coaster. And so I went, Wow, that works. And so about a year later, we're doing meeting in class at least once a week, twice a week, doing three practice targets and gathering skill, gathering skill. And at one moment, one time he taught us an advanced method where you do a uh breathing exercise, right? And you you rest your hands against your thumbs like this. Excuse me. And then you do a breathing exercise, you come to a complete stop, and you're looking, looking for the target. You've been working the target for like an hour up to now. And I you're supposed to have this little movie event happen. So I was working a a target that was on the internet, it was a beaconing target. I didn't know what it was, it was just numbers. And I was at my office. I used to sneak away at I I worked the weekend news and I'd have free time. And the station was empty on weekends, so there was an office I'd sneak off to in the middle of the building that was very quiet. And I was doing this session, I was doing this breathing exercise and all of a sudden this flickering movie started. It was like I was having this quite vivid dream. And I saw a man, I was looking from above in a gray coat, and he was walking by like men's suits on a suit rack. And he touched one. And over here, he looked at there was shirts stacked up. And then he just kind of walked through, consider the place and walked by. It lasted maybe six to eight seconds. And I came to and realized I was at my desk, and I thought, man, that was a funny little dream. I thought, what was that? Was that remote viewing? And I drew the a sketch as best I could, like there's suits and there's a man. And I thought, if this target is a guy in a clothing store, that's going to be a mick, because that's what I saw. But why wouldn't anybody give that as a remote viewing target? Everybody's expecting Mars, Area 51, 9-11 assassination, something. I saw this guy in the store. So I went and clicked on feedback, and it was a beaconing target. And the the target feedback was I'm in Germany at a military PX. I'm on the second floor, and I'm walking through the men's clothing section looking at men's clothing. And at that moment, the skin, the hair on my arm stood up in, you know, the back of my neck. And I went, holy oh my God. I went, oh my God, I saw that. And I called Glenn and I said, Glenn, I saw it. I saw it. I was just blubbering. I could see the guy. And he said, Calm down. You know, you're okay. You're all right. Yeah. He goes, what are you doing today? I mean, what were the remember the circumstances of how you did that? And just relax, yeah. And so I had this moment of not shock, but it was, it was very sobering because I realized, oh my God, everything we do is recorded and accessible. Like every thought I have, every action I take, it's still there. Because that guy walking through the store, he had done that a year or two earlier when he cued that target. So it was that realization that everything we do, say, feel, all actions, it is still resonating in consciousness and it is accessible. I don't want to use the word akashic record.

SPEAKER_03 24:20

I don't use that, but well, it's it's so interesting the way you say it. It's like almost like when I listened to you talk about it, like it when you trained yourself for remote viewing, that the information was there, but you didn't have the ability to recognize it. And as you taught yourself, you became more aware of these images or whatever you want to call them, messages. Well, I feel this way.

SPEAKER_00 24:47

Most people have never tried to see across time and space. They go living their life. Like I do presentations. I went to Korea with my wife is Korean, so we went to Korea last year, and I took, I gave a little seminar, and we had like 20, 15, 20 Korean people with no knowledge of remote viewing. And I put a picture in an envelope, and I said, okay, I'm gonna teach you how to put this target ID, how to look at it, and then you're gonna do this, you're gonna do this, then you're gonna look and you're gonna see it. So most people have never attempted that. But if you do actually try it, you'll you'll amaze yourself. Because like about four or five of these people in the Korean class, with one hour training, we're able to do that. Now, you can't in one hour or one week become good enough that it's like watching a DVD. And even for me, I've been doing it 27 years. Many times working a Target is akin to working the New York Times crossword puzzle without the hints. Like it's really hard. It's really tedious. You're sitting there with a blank page, a blank stack of paper and a pen, and you're little by little, you're getting like the first thing you want to know: is it man-made or natural? Is it moving or is it at rest? Is it complex or is it simple? What's something you hear? Talking, engine sound, tapping. It's tedious and it doesn't always work. Like sometimes I can spend an hour and get only marginal target contact and no experiential reality. There are other times, and I've not been able to figure out how to make the magic happen, other than the protocols. I'm good enough that I'll get some data using the protocols. But sometimes everything aligns, like you're in the right mood, your brainwave state, it's a it's an important target. I did one target one time. It was a uh we do a lot of practice targets that are very known just to prove the skill. So I'm writing the target ID. I'm in a in a dim room with a red light on, and I'm writing the target ID, and suddenly I couldn't see the page. It was like I was hallucinating, and there was an image forming, and I was like, I gotta write the target ID and write my name. And I saw this shimmering image of the Parthenon, and I said, That's the Greek columns on the hill, that's the Parthenon. And then it faded, and I did the target, and that was the target, was the Parthenon. And it it came to me as I was writing the target ID in full visual. And that's like that's happened ten times out of 500 targets that I've done. So it's it's I can't really control it as well as I'd like. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. When it does, it's quite amazing.

Target IDs And The Targeteer Role

SPEAKER_03 28:00

So the target, that's the biggest question I have in my head when I watch your videos or others, the place in Georgia you mentioned. I mean, I I know somebody that trained there, and then I don't understand where the target IDs come from. Is that like something made up that's put on a photograph, or how is that okay.

SPEAKER_00 28:19

In our in our method, it's called the targeteer, and the targetering process is vitally important to the remote viewing. Let's say that you want someone to remote view the White House. Right. Okay. You've got to keep the viewer has to be totally blind. You can't give them any hint. You can't say, well, we want you to remote view the White House. Well, they're gonna their conscious mind is gonna draw the columns and say the president's in there. Right. You want them to know nothing about it. What the targeteer does in our with my company, by the way, futureforecastinggroup.com, they take that target of interest, the White House, they take a picture of it and print it out. They go read the history of the White House, they look at the time that they want us to see it, like current time or next week, or December 8th, 1941, the day after Pearl Harbor when Roosevelt was getting ready to give a speech. So the targeter gets all that information very clearly in his mind and has to be totally focused on that. And then he goes and he prints out a we go, we use random.com to generate a random letter number string like A1, B2, C3, D4. You take that, and he, there's a little ritual, he speaks out loud. This this is target out loud. Target A1, B2, C3, D4 is the White House, Washington, D.C., December 8th, 1941. And he appends that target ID to the target photo, and he associates that in consciousness. So the targeter is making that random target ID the address of the target. I'll give you the history of how that started. But when the government and the US military were developing remote viewing in the 70s, they were trying to figure out how it worked and how well they were giving demonstrations. So the psychics said, well, go somewhere, like find a place, and give me the geographic, they would give them the geographic coordinates, like um 2134 north west, and then they could look on a map, and they they knew that that was a mountain with a lake and a forest. And the remote viewer would so they would give them it was called coordinate remote viewing because they would give them the geographical coordinates. So if they wanted to do a spy facility in the Soviet Union, they'd get the latitude and longitude coordinates and they would give that. And then some skeptic said, well, that's too much information because uh if you if somebody was really smart, they could zero in on that latitude and longitude and know that that's going to be in a northern climate, it's gonna be cold. And so they they decided, well, what if we just scrambled the numbers instead of 1428 north, we'll call it 824, you know, change the numbers. And then they said, well, we'll just make up numbers, like 8937. So that's that's the target ID. The target ID is the dress. It's a way to talk about the target and file the target away without the remote viewer knowing what it is, is to keep the blind and double blind protocol. But it has to be like I don't work targets that some people on the internet say, hey, I got a juicy target, 1-8-3-6. Well, I have no assurance that that person knows how to properly cue a target and make that association. Some targeters, remote viewers have favorite targeteers because they trust that that person has done a really strong focusing event where they really made a clear connection between.

SPEAKER_03 32:45

It's the foundation of the task. I always wondered that because I watched I watched you a bunch of times from the, you know, code of Harabi. Yeah, Hammurabi.

SPEAKER_00 33:00

We keep a really pristine chain of custody. Like I don't know who picks the targets, but the targeteer will have a record of when that target was suggested, the Hammurabi Steele. He will take a screenshot of the random dot generated, and he'll say when he did that, and then he'll keep a target package of the Hammurabi information, elements of information they wanted, and how he associated that with it. So there's a lot of record keeping and bookkeeping that goes into, you know, one remote viewer working alone is is pretty much worthless. You can't just like learn remote view, and I'm gonna you can't do it on your own. You need a team. It's it works best if you have two, three remote viewers working in concert. And you need an administrative level behind the remote viewer to pick targets to do analysis and to do the targeteering.

SPEAKER_03 34:03

Yeah, even self-verification. I mean, how do you do that if you're doing it all yourself? It's impossible.

SPEAKER_00 34:09

Yeah, there are and that's something my teacher Glenn was very good at was developing remote viewers and keeping, you know, keeping an organization where they can work together with other viewers and keep honing the skill and have a support background. Because a lot of people take a remote viewing class and they they go do it for one week and they go, wow, that's amazing. I look, I drew the lake and I drew water, you know, and the rocket launch and I drew this thing with fire coming out of it. And they do that and they amaze themselves and then they go back home and there's nobody to play with. They don't have any playmates. So the way it works.

SPEAKER_03 34:49

So how did you get to where you are now with um with your future forecasters group?

SPEAKER_00 34:56

Daz Smith and I This is an interesting story because Daz Smith is of a different school of remote viewing. And he and I used to argue like cats and dogs on the internet. We would have vicious flame wars, him challenging my methodology and me responding. And he he's in England and I'm in Hawaii, and we never met face to face, and we would be pretty vicious. And one day I realized, I thought, God, I'm being an asshole, you know. You know, you can really on a keyboard, you can really be a prick. And I thought, I'm I'm being a real asshole. And I I have a side of my personality, I can be kind of sharp. Me too. Yeah. So I thought, if I met Daz Smith in a bar and had a beer with him and just started talking about remote viewing and UFOs and our our, you know, things we have in common, our in common interests, I bet I'd be great friends with him. And I emailed him, I said, you know, Daz, I'm sorry for all the crap I've said to you. Like, peace. And so he and I started working together with Courtney Brown at Farsight. This was about 2010, 2012. We were doing some amazing projects for Courtney. JFK assassination, I saw that one. 9-11. I didn't see that. Hitler, uh Phoenix Lights.

SPEAKER_03 36:31

Hitler was lucky enough to be shown.

SPEAKER_00 36:34

Yeah, so we were working hard on that, and I did one that I published out, and I did a radio show, and I was on with a famous author, and that author called me off air and said, Dick, I have a source that would like to meet you. And I go, Okay, sure, Harry. So we got on a three-way call, and this guy said, Dick, you did a remote viewing, and he told me the one it was, and he said, What you described, we know that location, and you you got it perfectly. You got the story perfectly. Congratulations. I go, Well, thank you. He said, You have um essentially self-illuminated. And he said, We could make a website where people would pay to see you remote. You and I said, Oh, wait, wait, hold on. My teacher told me, keep money out of it. My teacher never, you know, money is the last thing you want to get involved with the remote viewing.

SPEAKER_03 37:41

And that becomes the motivation.

Remote Viewing Cryptocurrency And Markets

SPEAKER_00 37:43

I said, I don't know you. You know, I just you just I just met you. You know, I'm sure Harry's a nice guy, but I don't know who you are. And and I would be afraid to do it for money because I'd be afraid I'd do it. If somebody gave me money and I did a bad target, I'd and it's not 100%. And he goes, Okay, okay, that's fair enough. Can we talk sometime? Would you mind talking? I go, sure. So a month later, my phone rings and I look at the caller ID, and it's some part of the world. Like I go, oh, these call scammers are coming from everywhere. And I punch and I go, hello. And he goes, Dick, this is Michael. And I said, I don't know you. Well, quit bothering me. He goes, No, no, I'm about to talk to you with Harry. And I, oh, oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I talked to you last month. And he said, Have you got a few minutes? And he started telling me the history of European nobility from an insider's perspective. And my intuitive bells started ringing, and I went, this guy's connected. And two hours later, I've got pages of notes. And he goes, Yeah, well, interesting conversation. We'll talk again later. And two weeks later he calls me back and he starts explaining how the world works. And it was the beginning of a, I had maybe four or five hundred hours of conversation with him. And along the way, he said, Would you be willing to work some targets? And by then I knew that I was really interested in this guy. He said, Yeah, I would. He said, Well, we'll make a website. And I said, I need Daz Smith, because I can't do it alone. I'll do it with Daz. Daz and I will work some targets for you. Okay, we're gonna send you some targets and we're gonna make a website and we're gonna get a Patreon. And I go, I'll do it for the fun of doing the targets, but the Patreon, I don't know. So I did it for about eight months, and I didn't take any money. I wouldn't accept money. They bought me a camera, they upgraded my computer. So that was crypto viewing. We did that. And one of the things this insider, this man, is very, very well connected. He said, Dick, they're changing the financial system. We're in the transition to a new financial system. This is gonna be the biggest event in human history when everything goes to cryptocurrency because everything in the world is going to be tokenized. You're gonna have a digital ID and all money will be digital. And I'm going, whoa, whoa. He said, you need to learn about cryptocurrency and you'll be wealthy. He said, people with your skill throughout history have been taken care of by the elite, by the kings, you know, and the power brokers. And he said, if if you learn about cryptocurrency and invest in that, you'll be wealthy. And so I took him at his word and I learned about cryptocurrency, and I vested my 401k, and I'm doing pretty well. And that led to Future Forecasting Group. We enlisted Edward Reardon, who would be an interesting guy for you to interview too. Love to. As well as Dass Smith. And then Naeem Vendreas, and now we've got like three teams of remote viewers. We do weekly targets. We developed a method of remote viewing cryptocurrency. They said, okay, we we want to forecast what's going to happen with like Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin, XRP, all the top cryptos. And I thought, that's not really possible. Because cryptocurrency doesn't exist. I mean, it's Bitcoin is just computer code, right? How could you remote view uh computer code that exists in millions of computers around the world? Or Ethereum, which is essentially computer code with smart contracts. And so we tried to do it by way of associative remote viewing, like if Litecoin goes to$3,000, you will see this battleship. If Litecoin falls in value, you will see the farm, cows in a pasture. And they thought, that'll be easy, like one or the other. So they'd give us this target, and we would be drawn to the battleship because it has more entropy, it has more luminosity. And so we were saying, well, if Litecoin's going to 3,000 because we saw the battleship, and we we realized that the viewer, if the target is the cow in the pasture or the battleship, they'll be drawn to the battleship because it's flashier. So that was that was a horrendous failure. So we're doing this for paying customers, and that wasn't good. And so we, Daz and I thought, how can we do this? We thought, we can remote view the founder of the crypto, like who invented Ethereum and who's running it? What are those people's goals, aspirations? Are they good people or bad people? Do they, what's their intent? Will there be friction? You know, go to the meeting and see what they're like. One of them's gonna quit. And that's good data that we got. And then we could remote view the sentiment of the people that hold the token. Like next year, are people that have Ethereum gonna be happy? Are they gonna be sad? Right. And then we can remote view the logo. And then one day I realized is I can see the charts. If I close my eyes and on a good day, I can see the outline of the charts. Like, yeah, this is going to go up, it's gonna go down, this is gonna go way up. So we developed a method of remote viewing cryptocurrencies that is fairly viable. And so at Future Forecasting Group, we do economic. Forecasts, cryptocurrencies, ancient mysteries. We just did a uh stone formation in Kazakhstan that was interesting, that I think is just published today, FFGRV.com. We have interesting interviews with that source that uh gave me all the good information. Remote viewing is the most interesting thing I've ever been involved with. It's like just fascinating, endlessly fascinating because there's so many interesting targets to do.

SPEAKER_03 44:30

It's amazing. Have you ever done before I asked you more about Go ahead and ask me specific targets?

SPEAKER_00 44:36

I love talking about it. I give you war stories all day, Stephen man. I can't.

SPEAKER_03 44:40

Well that's good because I got them.

SPEAKER_00 44:42

Okay, you want to know about the UFO that I saw.

SPEAKER_03 44:44

No, I I didn't do it to you. I I believe in UFOs. I I I don't I don't know what to say.

SPEAKER_00 44:49

Well, I let me talk about UFOs and remote viewing.

SPEAKER_03 44:52

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 44:53

I have I think less than 1% of the targets I've ever done have been UFO targets. I don't like remote viewing UFO targets. I don't think it is uh the best use of remote viewing. Here's what happens: remote viewing and UFOs have been joined at the hips throughout time because it's it's like people that are interested in UFOs are also interested in remote viewing. And people that get into remote viewing and say, well, we can use remote viewing to find out the truth about aliens. So it's French. Everybody knows all the stories about all the Whitley Streber was abducted by Grays. Area 51, you know, there's so many stories. Oh, the big eyed, you know, and they come in the night. And so you give somebody one week's training in remote viewing, and they know that the advanced, their graduation target is gonna be the Roswell experience or Rendell Schim. They're gonna get a UFO and they're gonna drive the draw the disc and they're gonna draw the big-eyed aliens, and they're gonna go, yay, yay, you are a great remote viewer. You did it because they just regurgitate all the known stuff. And none of it can be validated. I, for me, a more amazing moment for me is when I drew the guy walking through the store looking at men's clothes. I mean, that I literally transcended space and time and provably did it. Whereas you can say, oh, I went to Mars and saw the ruins on Mars. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Sure you did.

SPEAKER_03 46:30

The guy in the walking through looking at the suits or whatever, I mean, that's as blind of an experiment as you're gonna get. Who would ever think of something like that?

SPEAKER_04 46:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:41

I mean, it's not like, you know, something made you think of it. It had it had to be a direct result. That was the best thing that could have happened to you.

SPEAKER_00 46:49

Yeah. Yeah. So, and uh, my teacher, oh Glenn, always said you've got to continually do validation targets, targets that can gauge your accuracy, known targets. Like, don't go off into the uh like, what is the purpose of the reptilian race in terms of you? That's no, don't, don't, don't use remote. So, what targets are you interested in that I've done? John Lennon's assassination? You ever do that? No, that'd be a good one. I just didn't, yeah, now that you've said it to me, I I can't work it for like six months to a year. Like I'm in my big mouth. I had lunch with a guy, somebody pretty well known, and he said, I got this great target. I want you to work. And I said, just you know who you are. I can't, I can't do it. I said, Here's what you need to do. The administrative people from Future Forecasting Group, email them, but I can't do it for like six months to a year. So I forgot all about that meeting, and like eight months later, we did a target and they gave us feedback. It was, yeah, it was this guy's target. So, yeah, John Lennon.

SPEAKER_03 48:03

John Lennon's, I just did, we just did uh I guess three three sessions, one where we went through David Whelan's book, Mind Games, Pretty Expensive, and David happened to see it, and he reached out to us and we talked to him, then he came out, we did a two-part one with him, and probably uh more downloads than we've had, we've gotten more and more as time goes on. You know, you work anything, you get better at it. Um probably had fifty over the past three weeks, fifty, sixty thousand downloads.

SPEAKER_00 48:33

So I'll tell you this. Humanity is there are administers, there are beings, entities, people who administer this civilization and guide guide it and plan things hundreds a hundred years in advance, decades in advance, no problem. And the goal was to bring uh our to a new place after World War II. It was so factory workers regimented, and they wanted to bring us to a new place. And one of the ways was through the music of the 60s, primarily the Beatles. And the Beatles step by step changed an entire generation. And that was didn't happen by accident. That was that was guided and allowed. My I was uh I'm a Grateful Deadhead. I love Grateful Dead. Bob Weir, what a loss. I was listening to him today. I used to scuba dive with Jerry Garcia. So Did you really? My mentor said, Dick, you like The Grateful Dead? Yeah. He goes, Did you ever hear they had a wall of sound? I said, Yes. I I heard, I saw a bunch of concerts with the wall. They had 40-foot-high wall of speakers powered by like 10 gazillion watts. It was it was the cleanest, most powerful sound system ever devised. It was just an amazing sound system, but it would induce a psychedelic experience. My mentor said, you know, Dick, the wall of sound was that was a CIA MK Ultra operation that was designed to give people an ecstatic psychedelic experience using a standing sound wave. They created a sound wave that would literally create a psychedelic experience with the power of the sound wave. So there are people behind the scenes.

SPEAKER_03 50:46

I'm with you. But you know what? You look and nothing happens by accident, right? Yep.

SPEAKER_04 50:51

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 50:51

And is and you think the people that are the people we believe that are controlling things, evil or good, they're pawns to the powers that be, so to speak. So I Well, I'll tell you this.

SPEAKER_00 51:06

People with certain skills within certain faculties, whether it is music, art, science, math, finance, people with exceptional skills are identified early and they're guided. They're nurtured and guided.

SPEAKER_03 51:32

So interesting. And that's what it is. And I and now the other spot the other thing I wanted to tell you, obviously the thing I've been reading more and more about is the Reagan assassinations, if we're talking about assassinations.

SPEAKER_00 51:44

Well, these and these people are essentially drones. So Chapman, you know, the the Okay, it was Chapman and Chapman and um Reagan's guy.

SPEAKER_03 51:59

I forget his name off the top of my head, but Serhan, Sirhan's a perfect example.

SPEAKER_00 52:02

Yeah, all these guys. They're drones. They're mind controlled. They have no memory of doing it. They're they're programmed to do it.

SPEAKER_03 52:11

That was one of the big things. The author of the book that came on Whalen, he said to me, I interviewed, he interviewed everybody. I mean, every security guard, everybody. And he said, you know, when I when I when I spoke to Chapman, he said, I believed I shot him in the back. And he said, What do you mean? He goes, Well, I have no conscious recollection of it. And that's what I was told. So I'm assuming that's what happened.

SPEAKER_00 52:39

Have you ever seen the work of Darren Brown? No, I'm writing that down right now. Okay. I've got a, I've got to bear with me. I've got to find this. You're gonna love this. Darren Brown. So there's a Darren Brown. Darren Brown. Let me I need to put my glasses on because this I want to tell you a great story, but I want to be able to uh Darren Brown. See if I can Okay, it's D-E-R-R-E-N. Brown. Okay this is on There's you can see this on YouTube, and I'll tell you what Darren Brown did. He's a mentalist and he uses entrainment. He is very well he does experiments where he sets up these TV shows, and he did a TV show that took about a year, and they found a person and they said, uh, we're doing an experiment with you, and the guy was willing, and they they said, Well, we're gonna teach you how to shoot a gun, because he never shot a gun. So they take him to a shooting range and they said, We're gonna make you aim better because you need to focus. So what we want you to do is close your eyes and tap yourself on the head three times and you'll be a better shot. And then they did a thing where they had a polka dot handkerchief. He hypnotized him and he said, When you see the polka dot handkerchief, you'll tap yourself three times and you'll shoot the gun. And you'll you'll shoot the person. So they were under the guise of making him a better shooter, they hypnotized him so that when he s heard a certain there was a audio cue, I forget it was a uh a bell ringing or some some sound that they induced, and a polka dot handkerchief, and then he would go like this and he would shoot the gun. And they they put him in an audience, and they had a famous British actor playing the part, and they had a gun that had blanks in it, but he didn't know it. And this woman came and bumped into him, and she had a polka dot dress on. That was the visual cue. And then they played the sound, and the guy was speaking, and this guy, they show him on camera, taps himself, takes his gun, and shoots the actor. They caused him to assassinate this guy. And they specifically talk about these cases. You I'll uh find the link and send it to you.

SPEAKER_03 55:26

That'll be great.

unknown 55:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 55:27

It's so funny that Whalen talks about uh he saw an interview with the hypnotist that was involved with Sirhan Sirhan and David Chapman, went to see him afterwards. And during this interview, he boasts how he could train somebody. As a matter of fact, he demonstrated it on Sirhan Sirhan when he was in jail. He made him think he was a monkey and made him climb all over the and he says, I can get a guy, I can hypnotize someone to do anything.

SPEAKER_00 55:52

Yeah. Hinckley, that was the right thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 55:55

I mean, this is this has been sharing candidate stuff. I mean, absolutely. It's so funny because in Sirhan's case, it was a woman in a polka dot dress.

SPEAKER_00 56:04

So that was That's why they Darren Brown actually references that and said, Could I recreate something? He said, This is what they claim they did with Searhan. He goes, Could I do that? And he hypnotized this guy and he used the polka dot dress, and he had a woman in the polka dot dress, and the guy erases a gun and shoots it. It's the m one of the most chilling things you'll ever see. It's on YouTube, Darren Brown D.

SPEAKER_03 56:30

You know, it's it's funny. There's a a great RFK documentary. It's on YouTube for free. I don't know where else it is. I think you buy it called RFK Must Die. And it's referencing Sir Han wrote that a whole bunch of times in his in his whatever, but you see all the they have all these films and they go through, and and one of the most chilling parts of it is they're showing the camera view of the audience, not RFK, when he gets shot. And the whole place gasps. You know, everybody, except for three guys. And when you look at them, you identify them as former CIA guys that happened to be at a convention in the same hotel, and they happened to run the assassination squad for the CIA before, and they don't flinch. They're stone faced. Three of them just stand in there, and you say to yourself, God, the world is so much more complex than I can even begin to think.

SPEAKER_00 57:35

Well, I'll tell you the that brings to mind one of the most compelling experiential moments I had in remote viewing was the target I did for Courtney Brown. And I said, okay, what am I seeing here? There's a city. Well, okay. The first experiential contact was I'm doing my thing and this little image forms, and I'm looking and it's grass, it's green grass, and it expands out, and I go, I'm thinking, okay, I'm on target. What do I need to see? And I go, I'm in a park. I go, there's grass. The sky is blue, but it's not a hot summer day. It's it's kind of a weak sun, and there's people over there, and there's a roadway over here, and there's an old light post, like from the 1980s. And I go, and there's a group of people over there, and I go, what do I need to see here? And I started thinking about like, okay, I'm remote viewing, I'm seeing this, and that knocks you off target because you analyze it, and I and I lost the vision. So I drew that. I go, okay, well, what is this? This is a big project for Courtney Brown. I must be something important. So then I get doing it again, and I go, there's a building, and the the people come, it's like a flash mob. Like all of a sudden, everybody comes at this time. They want to see something or somebody. Who are they? They're dressed well. They're some of them are tourists, some of them work in the office building, some just came, and they just came here to see something. And then all of a sudden, something happens. They're all like, oh my God, that was awful. Okay. And then I'm uh I'm working as Target over several weeks. And so I'm doing another session on it, and I look, and I was actually getting a massage. I have this Hawaiian lady that does Hawaiian Reiki style massage. I said, I need to work a remote viewing target. So put me out. She put on some soft music and she's just, and I'm laying face down. And all of a sudden, I was looking down on this sidewalk outside this building, and there was a guy, and he's walking, and he's in a white t-shirt and another shirt, and I and he walked right by me, and I recognized him as Lee Harvey Oswald. And I went, oh my God, I think that was Lee Harvey Oswald. Lee Harvey Oswald wasn't in the school book depository. He was on the street. He never fired a gun. And uh moment of history that I actually saw. That that makes um all the effort I put into remote viewing. It was like 10 seconds, but it was an amazing ten seconds.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:31

Yeah, supposedly NBC has that film that uh they never released of him standing on the front steps. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:38

He wasn't he didn't shoot anybody. He didn't shoot anybody. That was that was uh Yeah. Well the world is far stranger and far more controlled than we realize.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:51

So me or anybody that listens, what what would you advise if we wanted to get into remote viewing? I know I I I look at your website, I all I see is cryptocurrency and all kinds of things, so I get a little overwhelmed. But what would you say training, whatever you do? Do you guys do that? Or you focus more on the financial stuff or we do.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:13

We have a couple of we have a couple of trainers that do classes. I think the current one just filled up, but if you contact, I think it's info at ffgrv.com. Uh one my colleague Naeem Vendreas teaches classes. And I have another another one of our viewers who is an excellent teacher, Brian Boodoo is also. So we we have some instructors. We were we were offering training through Future Forecasting Group, but it is um it's not a moneymaker for us. It costs us money because it's so intensive. If you're gonna teach somebody, you need to teach them for like a year. And we just didn't want to charge that much. So there are instructors that uh I would contact. Yeah, contact info at FFGRV and they'll they'll steer you to somebody.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:09

Okay, great. And and tell me a little bit more about you know, people that are interested in what you're saying about cryptocurrency and whatever. Okay, here's the case.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:17

I watched that I can also ties about cryptocurrency all day long.

Digital Money And Tokenized Assets

SPEAKER_03 1:02:21

So I'm not a real crypto guy. I bought it and sold it and was happy with what I made, but Okay, I'll I'll give you the the short version. Because I know that I saw the video where you have three people that you're doing this test with or whatever. So I'm not sure if they're I didn't what I didn't understand was are they remote viewing or are they listening to people that have the information they developed through through their talents of what you're gonna and they're gonna analyze that information and make investments based on.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:53

No, that that has nothing to do with remote viewing. What we did was we took three people that don't know anything about investments and didn't know anything about cryptocurrencies, and we wanted them to use the information on our site, so we gave them each$2,000. So we've got a young kid who's really smart named Jack. He goes to school in Florida, and then we got a retired lady who is a Pilates instructor named Pearl, and then we got a guy who I really like who, when we were looking for candidates, he just used his iPhone, was in his truck. He's got three kids. He lives in California named Javier. So Javier, Pearl, and Jack, they don't know anything about, they're not remote viewers. It doesn't have anything to do with remote viewing. We wanted to introduce them to cryptos. Like, what would the how can a normal person learn about cryptos and invest a little bit of money and how will they do? So we gave each of them$2,000. We had them make an account with a broker in Australia called Caleb and Brown, which they successfully did. Then they're gonna wire that money and they're gonna look at the information that we provide on FFGRV.com about we have a list of top cryptos that we invest in. So we're not giving them investment advice, we're giving them information. And they're gonna invest this$2,000. And why we think it's gonna be exciting is because cryptos are down right now. And I think they're gonna have a bull run, certainly within the next year, probably sooner than that. And that$2,000, we're hoping those people end up with like$20,000,$30,000. And that that'll that'll be fun. So um I'll give you the we are in the transition to a new financial system. All the money is going to be digital. It's the US dollar was designed to have a certain lifespan. The financial system was agreed upon at the Bretton Woods conference at the end of World War II in 1943 or 44 at Bretton Woods, and they determined that the U.S. would be the hegemon, the U.S. would be the world superpower, and that the world would run on U.S. dollars as a world reserve currency. The U.S. is now$38 trillion in debt. That system's coming to an end. It's going to be Bitcoin as the treasury asset. Every human commercial activity is going to be tokenized and it will be read on blockchains. And that's going to be the administration of the human race going forward. And a lot of people hear that and go, I'll never submit to that. That's the mark of the beast. You're giving in to the evil ones. But it just is the way it is. So this is a we're at a life changing moment in our civilization when all assets are going to be put on blockchain. And it would be like you're old enough to remember if somebody would have to make it.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:08

Money used to be on the gold standard, right? And now it's not anymore. So what's the difference? So what's it's the same? One's on paper and one's in digital. It's the same, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:18

Yeah. If somebody would have told you in the 90s, like early 1980s, hey, there's this guy named Bill Gates who makes software. And you'd go, what's software? It runs computers. And you'd think, well, I don't have a computer. I'm never going to have a computer. There's some big companies that have computers, but and I told you, no, everyone's going to have a computer. And the software that runs computers is going to make billions and billions of dollars. If you invest in it, you'll be a billionaire. And Apple, Facebook, Google, Twitter, Microsoft. Now it's going to be Ethereum, H-Bar, XRP. That's going to run the financial system. Everything is going to be run on blockchain. And if you invest in it now, don't take investment advice from a remote viewer and a former newscaster, but if you invest now, you'll make a lot of money. I don't want the I don't want the burden of having to tell people what to do with their money. Don't listen to me.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:20

I agree with you. I mean, I used to run a so I I was a shoe salesman. That's what I did. I was like 18 years old. I didn't go to law school. I didn't go to college until I was 40. I went, I graduated law school, I was 40. I had a trucking company. I did all this stuff. My my dad worked in a factory, my mother worked in a cafeteria. You know what I mean? And I just put my mind down. I said, I can do this. Look at these idiots. They're doing it. I can do this. And it changed everything. Next thing you know, I was general counsel to a uh six billion dollar employee pension fund, you know?

SPEAKER_00 1:07:57

Let me ask you, which crypto did you invest in? Bitcoin. So you had some Bitcoin. I think you still want to keep some.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:06

Yeah, I you know what? I had these I lived in a high-rise build a Trump building, actually. That's how I met him. And uh the security guards were making money hand over fist. They were buying Bitcoin at nothing. And they make I made$10,000 last week. You know, like I was like, what's going on? And that's how I found out. I mean, because kids, kids were doing it.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:28

Okay, here's here's my tip. Not financial advice. Don't listen to a retired newscaster.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:34

But just an idea that you had that you you hope to take advantage of.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:41

Excuse me, I was copying there. Okay. The deposit the DTCC is the depository trust clearing corporation. People can look this up. DTCC, Depository Trust Clearing Corporation. They're developing a crypto by the name of Canton, C-A-N-T-O-N. Canton is currently about 15 cents. The Depository Trust Clearing Corporation certifies, handles, validates all bonds, stocks, derivatives, and securities in the United States, they're gonna tokenize the whole system. Trillions of dollars will be tokenized through the DTCC. This token is new and I might buy a little bit of it. Not investment advice.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:41

It's funny because I I for a guy like me who knows zero about investments, but my father used to say who, you know, had an eighth grade application uh had an eighth grade uh education, he said, you know, if it's too good to be true, it usually is. That was his voice about everything. And everything when when Madoff came and tried to try to get us to take our billion dollars and put it in, and I would be like, nah, we only give you created, don't don't trust anybody. And you know, that's how investments are in.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:16

That's that's your intuition guiding you on that one.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:20

Yeah, well, all of them were. I mean, I didn't believe in real estate backed. I was like, doesn't make sense. We have we have all the money. I I don't have to take risk. I mean, we we have a lot of money. We have a lot of money coming in, and we have a lot of money going out, but we have more coming in than going out. So I don't have to worry about, you know, how much money we make.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:40

Yeah. Money is like a I think it's like a magic spell. I mean, essentially it is. You look at US dollars, there's no gold behind it, like you said. It's just like they just they just make it up in computers now. Same thing with Bitcoin. Bitcoin is just yeses and no's. It's just a dot or a zero, a plus or a zero. And it's like it's worth$71,000. But it's just code. So it's essentially magic. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:11

Yeah, but it is what it is. It's currency and it trades and whatever had that doesn't mean you shouldn't make money from it. You know, I I always go back to I always go back to the story uh I used to run the anti-corruption program where we hunt out organized crime in in labor unions in in New York and in Washington, D.C. And don't ask me how I, you know, I think they put me in there because I didn't think I knew anything. That was a mistake. But, you know, that sometimes the system's set up to fail. So I worked with the head of the criminal division of the U.S. Attorney's Office. And the day before he had deposed John Gotti. And and John Gotti said to him, What are you wasting your time with me for? Go down to Wall Street. You want to go real gangsters and real criminals?

SPEAKER_02 1:11:59

Go down there.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:01

That's a great line. That's a great line.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:04

And he said, I deposed him, but he does something to that, you know? And it is true. I mean, they're all making it up, and and then they're taking advantage of the system they create.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:14

My mentor told me the whole financial system right now is just modern art. It's just an illusion. It's going to be interesting. We're in really interesting times. It's going to be interesting to see how things unfold. I mean, everything is, there's so much friction being induced into the system.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:32

Aaron Powell Well, you know, we're now looking at a war, right? We're looking at a war and and we have this oil-based, I don't know that much about it, but here's my guess. We have this oil-based economy that's being trade with digited stuff. But now, because that's cut off, if you want to get oil, you if you have to come to us, you're going to use U.S. dollars because that's how we operate. But that changes everything.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:55

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: It's it's brilliant on one on one level, because Trump just took control of all the oil in Venezuela and now Iran, which is the number one and number three producer of oil, and he's edged out China. But if you look at when we went to war with Japan, the reason Japan attacked Pearl Harbor was they cut off Japan's oil in the early n you know, 1940, 1939. So they were forced to attack. So we've cut off China's oil. We backed them into a corner. Yeah. Is China backed into a corner? Was it meant on purpose to cause World War III? I mean, are they that diabolical? That's a question to consider.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:40

I I don't know if we'll ever know the answer to that question, but Andy released oil to Russia.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:46

Which has got to piss China off even more.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:49

Yeah. So it's it's a chessboard in their big players moving the pieces.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:56

Not the ones we know anyway.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:59

Yeah.

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I mean, you may know.

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I'm just a poor struggling guy from I'm just a retired news guy who does.

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I'm a dumb kid from New Jersey. I used to sell shoes for a living.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:10

Yeah. Well, hopefully we have common sense, you and I. Yeah, I hope we do too. I think it's called Street Smarts, because we're not stupid.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:19

Yeah. We've been abused before by lesser people.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:23

Well, I appreciate you coming on. It was really good. Hey, it's been great talking with you. We'll do it again.

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Okay.

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